Elizabeth Jones

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  • Name Elizabeth Jones  [3
    Born 4 Mar 1888  Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Wales 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Wales 
    Died 1977  Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Registration Between 1 Jan 1977 and 31 Mar 1977  Meirionydd, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Death 
    • Volume 25, Page 0346
    Name Bessie 
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    Person ID I489  The Williams Family Tree
    Last Modified 27 Jun 2014 

    Father Richard Jones
              b. 24 Aug 1849, Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother Anne Jones
              b. 9 May 1847, Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Between 1901 and 1911  (Age 53 years) 
    Married 15 May 1874  Register Office, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    • When did they get married? If my theory about Isaac is correct then it follows that Richard and Anne would have married after 1868 and before Polly was born about 1875 ...

      Name: JONES, Richard; Record Type: Marriages; Quarter: June; Year: 1874; District: Machynlleth; County: Caernarvonshire Merionethshire Montgomeryshire Powys; Volume: 11b; Page: 297.

      Name: JONES, Anne; Record Type: Marriages; Quarter: June; Year: 1874; District: Machynlleth; County: Caernarvonshire Merionethshire Montgomeryshire Powys; Volume: 11b; Page: 297.

      From the Marriage Certificate, 1874, Marriage solemnized at the Register Office in the District of Machynlleth in the County of Montgomery. No. 114, Fifteenth May 1874, Richard Jones, Age 25 years, Bachelor, Farm Servant, Residence Esgairweddan Towyn, Father's name Evan Jones, Father's occupation General Labourer + Anne Jones, Age 25 years, spinster, Residence Esgairweddan, Father's name Evan Davies, Father's occupation Lead Miner. The marriage was witnessed by John Jones and Susan Williams.

      If the above is correct the only Lead Miner by the name of Evan Davies that I can find in 1871 (RG10 Piece 5604 Folio 23 Page 10) was aged 53 and living in Tybach, Noddfa, Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Wales. With him were his wife Ann, 46, and children Thomas, 22, Lead Miner, David, 15, Scholar, Rachel, 10, Scholar, James, 7, Scholar, and Margret, 2. Evan was reportedly from Carmarthenshire (N.K.) whilst the rest of the family were from Darowen.

      The family appear in Tynllwyn, Noddfa, Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Wales in the 1861 Census (RG9 Piece 4242 Folio 34 Page 31). Evan, 42, Lead Miner now from Llanwenog, Cardiganshire was with his wife Ann, 37, from Darowen, Montgomeryshire, and their children Elizabeth, 8, Scholar born Penegoes, Montgomeryshire, Mary, 7, Scholar born Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Evan, 5, born Darowen, Montgomeryshire, and David, 2, born Darowen, Montgomeryshire.

      Interestingly, on the same 1861 Census (RG9 Piece 4242 Folio 31 Page 24) there was Anne Jones, 15, Lead Miner's Daughter staying with her grand-parents Richard Jones, 70, Farmer of 180 acres from Pennal, Merionethshire, and Elisabeth, 58, from Darowen, Montgomeryshire. Also present were the couple's children David, 35, Farmer Son from Pennal, Merionethshire, Humphrey, 26, Farmer Son from Pennal, Merionethshire, Mary, 38, Farmer Daughter born Pennal, Merionethshire, servant Evan Jones, 14, Horses Driver from Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire and visitor Humphrey Jones, married, 32, Local Preacher of Wesleyan also from Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire.

      In 1851 the Davies family are in Aberhosan, Penegoes, Montgomeryshire (HO107 Piece 2495 Folio 138 Page 10). Evan Davies, 33, Lead Miner from Cardiganshire, Ann his wife, 26, from Darowen, Montgomeryshire, and sons Thomas, 1, born Cemes (sic), Montgomeryshire, and Evan, 1 month, born Penegoes, Montgomeryshire. This Evan must have died young as they named another child Evan who was born about 1856.

      The Jones family, meanwhile, were in Cefncochucha, Noddfa, Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Wales (HO107 Piece 2495 Folio 414 Page 2). Richard Jones, 60, was a Farmer of 100 acres employing 2 labourers and hailed from Penal (sic), Merionethshire. He was with his wife Elizabeth, 43, from Darowen, Montgomeryshire, and children Mary, 29, Farmer's Daughter born Penal (sic), Merionethshire, David, 27, Farmer's Son born Penal (sic), Merionethshire, Humphrey, 16, Farmer's Son born Towyn, Merionethshire, and grand-daughter Anne, 5, Home, now from Penal (sic), Merionethshire. The household had two servants: Rowland Hughes, 18, Farm Labourer from Garthbeibio, Montgomeryshire and Catherine Griffiths, 18, House Servant from Cemmaes, Montgomeryshire.

      It would appear that Elizabeth was Richard Jones's second wife as from the 1841 Census (HO107 Piece 1429/16 Folio 6 Page 6) Richard, 50, Farmer was at Desyrnant, Towyn, Merionethshire, Wales. With him were Ann, 50, (presumably his first wife), John, 20, Mary, 20, David, 15, Richard, 10, and Humphrey, 5. It would appear there were three other people present on Census night: William Roberts, 50, Miner, Ann Thomas, 45, Female Servant, and John Foulks, 70, Ind(ependant means).

      Moving on to the 1881 Census (RG11 Piece 5479 Folio 17 Page 5) Evan Davies, 62, (Road) Labourer from Llanybyther, Carmarthenshire, was with his wife Ann, 55, from Darowen, Montgomeryshire, at 13 Darowen, Noddfa, Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Wales. With them were their children David, 22, Farm Servant, Margreat, 11, Scholar, and Grand-daughter Elizabeth, 9, Scholar, all born Darowen, Montgomeryshire.

      The question remains; How are these people connected? Was Anne Jones (Hen Nain) b 1847 the illegitimate daughter of the Ann that married Evan Davies and was she, in turn, the illegitimate daughter of the Ann that married Richard Jones?
    Registration Jun 1874  Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Marriage 
    • Volume 11b, Page 297
    Family ID F171  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Richard Backhouse Satterthwaite
              b. 1885, Rusland, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 7 Nov 1953  (Age 68 years) 
    Registration Jun 1915  Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Marriage 
    • Volume 8b, Page 443
    Married 2 Jun 1915  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Married at the Welsh Calvanistic Methodist Chapel, Princess Road, Liverpoo l.
    Children 
     1. Bonella May Satterthwaite
              b. 26 Mar 1916, Forden, Montgomeryshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 2002  (Age 85 years)
     2. Living
    Last Modified 3 Jun 2008 
    Family ID F240  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 4 Mar 1888 - Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Wales - 5 Apr 1891 - Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Wales - 31 Mar 1901 - Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsRegistration - Marriage - Jun 1915 - Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 2 Jun 1915 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 1977 - Aberdovey, Merionethshire, Wales Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Auntie Bessie (extreme left)
    Auntie Bessie (extreme left)
    Auntie Bessie and Nain
    Auntie Bessie and Nain
    Courtesy of Dilys Williams

    Census
    1891 Wales Census for Pennal, Merionethshire
    1891 Wales Census for Pennal, Merionethshire
    RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 5 Page 4
    1901 Wales Census for Pennal, Merionethshire
    1901 Wales Census for Pennal, Merionethshire
    RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 7 Page 8

  • Notes 
    • Note in Nain's diary - "Aug. 6th 1942 - Dick and Lizzies Golden Wedding."

      According to the 1901 Census, Elizabeth was 13 making her year of birth 1888.

      From the 1891 Census, (RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 5 Page 4) Elizabeth, 2, was with her parents Richard, 42, an Agricultural Labourer and Ann, 44, (shown as being born in Pennal and not Darowen). With her were her siblings Winifred, 14, Margaret E (Margred Ellen), 7, Annie (Nain), 4, and all born in Pennal, Merionethshire, Wales.

  • Sources 
    1. [S5417] 1911 England Census - Alive, (People who should be alive for the 1911 England and Wales Census) (Reliability: 3), 20 Jun 2010.

    2. [S6297] Temp Tag 9 II (Reliability: 3), 23 May 2011.

    3. [S293] Jones.FTW (Reliability: 3).
      Date of Import: May 25, 2000

    4. [S1024] RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 5 Page 4, (Pennal, Merionethshire), RG12 Piece 4587 Folio 5 Page 4 (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S1238] RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 7 Page 8, (Pennal, Merionethshire), RG13 Piece 5190 Folio 7 Page 8 (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S8529] England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007, ((http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7579&enc=1)), accessed 27 Jun 2014), Elizabeth SATTERTHWAITE; Age at death 89 (1888), Birth date 4 Mar 1888; Mar 1977, Meirionnydd, Gwynedd, Volume 25, Page 0346. (Reliability: 3), 27 Jun 2014.

    7. [S1656] Marriage Certificate for Richard JONES and Anne JONES (171), Entry 114; Registration District: Machynlleth; 1874. Marriage solemnized at the Register Office in the District of Machynlleth in the County of Montgomery. (Reliability: 4), 7 Aug 2007.

    8. [S1854] Registration of Marriages, (Ancestry.co.uk), Jun 1874, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Volume 11b, Page 297 (Reliability: 3), 14 Mar 2008.
      Richard JONES + Anne JONES

    9. [S1854] Registration of Marriages, (Ancestry.co.uk), Jun 1915, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, Volume 8b, Page 443 (Reliability: 4), 11 Mar 2008.
      Richard B SATTERTHWAITE + Elizabeth JONES