John William Wates[1, 2]

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  • Name John William Wates  [3
    Registration Between 1 Apr 1871 and 30 Jun 1871  St. Olave Southwark, London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Birth 
    • Volume 1d, Page 199
    Born 17 May 1871  Southwark, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Census 3 Apr 1881  Chatham, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    England 
    Occupation 3 Apr 1881  Chatham, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Scholar 
    Residence 3 Apr 1881  Chatham, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    12 King Street 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  Newington, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    England 
    Occupation 5 Apr 1891  Newington, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Boot Laster 
    Residence 5 Apr 1891  Newington, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    255 East Street 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  Camberwell, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    England 
    Name Jack 
    Occupation 31 Mar 1901  Camberwell, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Train Conductor 
    Residence 31 Mar 1901  Camberwell, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    3 Buff Place 
    Died 1938  Camberwell, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
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    Person ID I20265  The Williams Family Tree
    Last Modified 10 Apr 2013 

    Father John William Wates
              b. 21 Aug 1836, Woolwich, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 11 Jan 1900, St. Saviours, Bermondsey Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 63 years) 
    Mother Theodora Anderson
              b. 31 Mar 1839, Blackfriars, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1917  (Age 77 years) 
    Registration Jun 1875  Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Marriage 
    • Volume 1d, Page 597
    Married 5 Jun 1875  Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F6086  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Harriett Worthington
              b. Abt 1873, Bermondsey, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 1891  Walworth, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. John Wates
              b. 19 Dec 1891, Wandsworth, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1941, Wandsworth, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 49 years)
     2. Benjamin Robert Edward Wates
              b. 1893, Bermondsey, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1948, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years)
     3. Thomas Edward Wates
              b. 1896, Bermondsey, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1971, Croydon, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)
     4. Edward Albert Wates
              b. 1898
              d. 1899, Camberwell, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
     5. Rose Harriet Wates
              b. 1902
              d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Henry Richard Wates
              b. 19 Jan 1906, Brixton Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Living
     8. Jordan B. Wates
              b. 1918, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1926, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 8 years)
    Last Modified 30 Aug 2012 
    Family ID F6087  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsRegistration - Birth - Between 1 Apr 1871 and 30 Jun 1871 - St. Olave Southwark, London, Middlesex, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 17 May 1871 - Southwark, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - England - 3 Apr 1881 - Chatham, Kent, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Scholar - 3 Apr 1881 - Chatham, Kent, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 12 King Street - 3 Apr 1881 - Chatham, Kent, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1891 - Walworth, London, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - England - 5 Apr 1891 - Newington, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Boot Laster - 5 Apr 1891 - Newington, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 255 East Street - 5 Apr 1891 - Newington, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - England - 31 Mar 1901 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Train Conductor - 31 Mar 1901 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 3 Buff Place - 31 Mar 1901 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 1938 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Census
    1881 England Census for Chatham, Kent
    1881 England Census for Chatham, Kent
    RG11 Piece 893 Folio 64 Page 30
    1891 England Census for Newington, Surrey
    1891 England Census for Newington, Surrey
    RG12 Piece 362 Folio 5 Page 1
    1901 England Census for Camberwell, Middlesex
    1901 England Census for Camberwell, Middlesex
    RG13 Piece 494 Folio 13 Page 11

  • Notes 
    • He was a boot journeyman, later a tram conductor. 1891 m. Harriet Worthington, St. Saviour, Southwark. She b. 1873 ? They lived in Walworth. 1893 128 Barlow St., Walworth 9 Chn. She d.Sept 1955 (82) Rochford

      From the 1881 Census (RG11 Piece 893 Folio 64 Page 30) John, 9, Scholar born Southwark, London, was with his father John William, 45, Pianoforte Maker and Musician from Woolwich, Kent, at 12 King Street, Chatham, Kent, England. With him were his half-sister Henrietta, 19, Tailoress born Southwark, London, and brother Benjamin, 3, born Southwark, London.

      From the 1891 Census (RG12 Piece 362 Folio 5 Page 1) John, 19, Boot Laster born Bermondsey, Surrey, was with his parents John, 56, Musical Instrument Maker from Woolwich, Kent, and Theodora, 52, Hat Trimmer from Southwark, Surrey, at 255 East Street, Newington, Surrey, England. With him were his siblings Theodora, 15, Boot Machinist born Bermondsey, Surrey, and Benjamin, 13, Scholar born Bermondsey, Surrey. Boarding with the family was George Hackett, 41, Cordwainer (Rope) from Newington, Surrey.

      From the 1901 Census (RG13 Piece 494 Folio 13 Page 11) John, 31, Train Conductor was with his wife Harriett, 28, at 3 Buff Place, Camberwell, London, England. With him were his children John, 9, Ben, 7, Tom, 5, mother Theodora, widow, 62, Gentleman's Hat Trimmer, and brother Ben, 23, Train Conductor. Everyone was reportedly born in Bermondsey, London.

  • Sources 
    1. [S2857] The Wates Family Saga, Margaret R. Pitt, (Middlesex, England - 1974/1998).

    2. [S6297] Temp Tag 9 II (Reliability: 3), 23 May 2011.

    3. [S3811] Wates Family Saga List (Reliability: 3), 19 May 2009.

    4. [S1856] Registration of Births, (Ancestry.co.uk), Jun 1871, St. Olave, London, Volume 1d, Page 199 (Reliability: 3), 2 Jun 2008.
      John William WATES

    5. [S2815] RG11 Piece 893 Folio 64 Page 30, RG11 Piece 893 Folio 64 Page 30 (Reliability: 3), 6 Jun 2008.

    6. [S2816] RG12 Piece 362 Folio 5 Page 1, RG12 Piece 362 Folio 5 Page 1 (Reliability: 3), 6 Jun 2008.

    7. [S2825] RG13 Piece 494 Folio 13 Page 11, RG13 Piece 494 Folio 13 Page 11 (Reliability: 3), 8 Jun 2008.

    8. [S1854] Registration of Marriages, (Ancestry.co.uk), Jun 1875, Lambeth, London, Volume 1d, Page 597 (Reliability: 3), 1 Jun 2008.
      John William WATES + Theodora ANDERSON